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Why are Virgo men so hard to seduce?

topic posted Tue, October 16, 2007 - 5:26 AM by  Drink Me
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Of all the sings i've come across Virgos men have proven to be the hardest ones to seduce. Why is that? Ok, so aside from flexing ones mental muscles, how can someone seduce/intrigue a pragmatic Virgo?
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    Wed, October 17, 2007 - 11:53 PM
    When do you see this man? At work? Socially? In your neighborhood? At school?

    I've generally found that when a Virgo man likes someone he finds a way to spend time with that person. And then he doesn't bother to leave until he's told to or has to, but generally the being around and finding an opening for making a move (based on the rest of his planets) is a good indicator he's interested.

    I think that Virgos being shy is a myth. Subtle because we hate wasting energy where it's not going to be recieved well is more likely, so between two Virgos ONE of you at least is going to have to make like you're Mercury ruled and communicate concisely and clearly something that lets the other person know that you are beyond a shadow of a doubt interested in the other person if hasn't been done already.
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      Thu, October 18, 2007 - 6:48 PM
      >>>>>ONE of you at least is going to have to make like you're Mercury ruled and communicate concisely and clearly something that lets the other person know that you are beyond a shadow of a doubt interested in the other person if hasn't been done already.<<<<<


      thats true..
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        Thu, October 18, 2007 - 9:18 PM
        btw, all these descriptions are ditto for me
        so i think this goes for both virgo men AND women

        ain't that raht ladeeeez?
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          Thu, October 18, 2007 - 9:58 PM
          I dunno, I can't speak for every Virgo out there at all,
          but I think if a Virgo is interested, they'll for sure give you the hint, maybe even straight up tell you.
          no, it won't be instant... but they wont wait forever either....
          but I still believe that if he seems immune to your seduction, he really isn't interested....
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            Fri, October 19, 2007 - 7:22 AM
            "no, it won't be instant... but they wont wait forever either.... "

            dude, this one goes for both virgo men and women..i know i get that way for every single guy that i've been interested in...i may even be in love with you secretly but don't expect me to stick around for you...

            and yeah, they may be subtle, depending on context but if they like you, you'll know they like you..just don't play games with them cause if you do, they'll do a double on you and you won't know what hit you..
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            Fri, October 26, 2007 - 11:52 AM
            I think Joey's dead on about this idea that if a person wants to be seduced, they'll let you know....give openings. Usually when it's difficult to cultivate, it's a pretty good indication they may just not be on the same page and any relationship would prove to be more challenging.

            Virgo men to me have always been all about trust, smarts, understated sexiness to total tramp-like. The one commonality was always that they'll give some hints if not tell you they are interested. If they don't know you are interested (subtle sometimes doesn't work for people) they aren't gonna wait around forever ;-)
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              Wed, October 31, 2007 - 10:33 AM
              "Virgo men to me have always been all about trust, smarts, understated sexiness to total tramp-like. The one commonality was always that they'll give some hints if not tell you they are interested. If they don't know you are interested (subtle sometimes doesn't work for people) they aren't gonna wait around forever ;-)"

              so true!
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          Fri, October 26, 2007 - 11:54 AM
          totally correct for both. Have lots of virgo in my chart and it is absolutely true for me.
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            Thu, November 1, 2007 - 8:04 AM
            What do you mean by 'interested'. This is what's hard to get for this Virgo.
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              Thu, November 1, 2007 - 8:26 AM
              Are they interested in a relationship is the general meaning.
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                Thu, November 1, 2007 - 8:59 AM
                Would 'relating' be meaningful and/or interesting?
                (I'm trying to show the burning gears in this Virgo's selection process)
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                  Fri, November 2, 2007 - 6:37 AM
                  now I'm confused lightning...lol.
                  Do you mean for the initial poster?
                  Are they a virgo too or no?
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                    Re: Why are Virgo men so hard to seduce?

                    Fri, November 2, 2007 - 8:42 AM
                    The Virgo male, in most cases, is NOT CONTROLLED by woman! Women often are so self-obsessed that they think that the Virgo male can be handled like a toy with a remote control. But the Virgo male, in general, just looks at her with cold eyes, he knows her little tricks and mind games like his back pocket AND JUST CANNOT BE BOTHERED! He has his inner worlds, he has his powerful intelligence & he DOES NOT NEED female company the way other sun-sign males can be reduced to weeping blues-singers! What do woman have to offer this wise man? Perhaps not that much.
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                      Fri, November 2, 2007 - 11:38 AM
                      joakim, are you even a virgo?

                      No one believes or suggested that women control men, let alone "needs" female company in order to feel whole or some other such garbage.

                      Yet another assumption and mis-perception on your part in this tribe.

                      Yawn.
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                        Fri, November 2, 2007 - 2:13 PM
                        I´m not really convinced that women in general understand the male Virgo. More often than not do they think that they are dealing with simple creatures that can be manipulated with sex...BAD MISTAKE! The Virgo male, more often than not, sees through womans little schemes & and are sometimes disgusted with naughty suggestions. That really scares woman! They have encountered a being that often have the mind of a skilled, ateist priest: he´s stern & incorruptible! The perfect hybrid between man/female has risen & he does not generally appreciate dirty pillow-talk! WHAT CAN WOMAN REALLY GIVE HIM THAT HE DOES NOT ALREADY GOT? Wise women approach this organism like humble pupils to a master: bad mistake to try and treat the All-seeing One like some crude aries on a beer-run or some fish-man lost in fantasy-land!
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                          Fri, November 2, 2007 - 9:00 PM
                          Yeah, I can see what you're saying by the thin line. I guess the virgo males I've been with have been somewhat coy too. And, in the end, they were truly themselves and it didn't work out.

                          NO virgo male I have EVER known has ever been "disgusted with naughty suggestions" that's for sure! In fact, I don't think I've ever met a male like that, period.

                          Joakim, forget being a virgo, are you even an Earthling? Just wondering...
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                            Sat, November 3, 2007 - 5:42 AM
                            "NO virgo male I have EVER known has ever been "disgusted with naughty suggestions" that's for sure! In fact, I don't think I've ever met a male like that, period."

                            They aren't for ya Kaylie. Kaboom! ;-p

                            ditto for the above. Each have been perhaps the most dirtiest talkers I've ever encountered. Articulate and as naughty as they are refined. Maybe Joakim could talk to some virgo males and actually get this. Virgo women pay attention to such things and remember it.
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                              Sat, November 3, 2007 - 7:37 AM
                              My personal view on zodiac stuff is that THE ACTUAL BEHAVIOUR OF A PERSON IS WHAT DEFINES HIM AS A SIGN, NOT DATE OF BIRTH! Meaning: bulls that behaves like crabs, are crabs. And if a person officially is a Virgo but behaves like something else, he is in my view something completely different! I am a first decan Virgo; it´s hard to find a more TYPICAL Virgo than that. Many people seems to have forgotten what Virgo is all about; they have looked into the mirror too long & think that the whole world is just like them! They project their own desires on others. Women often protect themselves from hard truths by living in denial & construct fairy-tales to get even further from the facts! What is Virgo all about? I don´t think Virgo is about excessive bar-crawling, rude behaviour & sexual adventures! I´m pretty sure most true Virgos agree.
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                                Sat, November 3, 2007 - 8:58 AM
                                no, i've studied. Still certainly have much to learn. However, it's from both books, teachers, and watching people that I take my opinions. Unlike you who project your own opinions about signs based on the most elementary sun sign interpretations.... I've listened to the men who are virgos, there has yet to be one that would say they are anything like the description nor act like some wise fool who does not enjoy interraction or relationships. Your post states ""it's hard to find a more typical virgo than that" - you are using YOURSELF as an example and projecting it onto all men.

                                Pupil and master? Wtf are you on? There is no fairy tale seeing here, though there absolutely is in that statement of yours earlier. I suggest you look into the mirror, go a little bit deeper.

                                No one suggested bar crawling, rudeness, or sexual adventures were "virgo" in nature. Though they very much can be.
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                                Get out of your hermit existence and perhaps you will be able to realize that.
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                                  Re: Why are Virgo men so hard to seduce?

                                  Sat, November 3, 2007 - 9:59 AM
                                  And besides, you're talking to some "true virgos", and WE don't agree...
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                                    Sat, November 3, 2007 - 10:29 AM
                                    joakim appears here on this tribe as an antagonizer. by looking at his vague profile i see he is only in two tribes: virgo and scorpio. before i even looked at it i had guessed he has some scorpio in his chart because all scorps i know looooove to pick, antagonize and provoke.

                                    so i'd say keep that in mind when reading his posts...don't get too riled up and see that he is trying to get a rise out of readers.
                              • Re: Why are Virgo men so hard to seduce?

                                Mon, November 19, 2007 - 3:36 AM
                                You probably are right that Virgos are not about EXCESSIVE bar-crawling, rude behavior and sexual adventures.

                                But then you'll need to define excessive.

                                And then you'll need to surmount the problem of getting other Virgos to admit to anything.

                                Read the description of this tribe...Virgos are "quirky, sensual, curious, and a little bit pervy!" I wrote that only after having encountered numerous Virgo sun and Virgo risings people. And I certainly did not meet them at the library - more like belting out sexy ballads on stage at rowdy bars, flirting drunkenly and shamelessly at their own wild nightclub party productions, MCing BDSM/fetish events, teaching sensuality workshops, exploring tantra, running porn production companies, doing dominatrix work on the side, frequenting sex worker/strip clubs, working at strip clubs, exploring polyamorous relationships, etc.


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                          Mon, November 19, 2007 - 2:56 AM
                          My experience of the healthy evolved Virgo male is that he's comfortable with his sensuality and clear about his wants and desires, which often involve a hearty appetite for and lack of shame or fear around sensuality and sex. There can be a bit of aloofness, but those with other strongly extroverted signs in their chart leave no room for doubt about their interest or lack thereof, though with at least some savvy. I think it's a boon of the part of the world I'm in that I meet so many highly creative and intelligent Virgo men (and women). I especially love that they have radar for the little things, noticing subtleties that some other signs need a diagram and a class to absorb into their consciousness.

                          Then there are the know it all assholes that many of us have been at one time or another. No human, Virgo are no, is a little self contained super diety of all-knowingness. And I certainly wouldn't give the time of day to the jackass you describe, Joakim.

                          How convenient that the pop astrology you fetishize pigeonholes Virgos into frigid, critical, aloof creatures that think nothing of bypassing sex when there is a good book to curl up with. A fragile ego that hasn't come to terms with their timidity or fear of rejection can make limp claims of intellectual and spiritual superiority, but that's hardly the way to win friends and woo lovers. The male Virgo is as human and vulnerable as the male or female of any other sun sign, with the sensitivity to nuance that can make him (or her) all that more neurotic when he fears rejection and deeply frightened of women's power when he demonizes them as dirty minipulative seductresses.
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                            Mon, November 19, 2007 - 8:47 AM
                            Very well said, Wendy - Thank you!

                            I had a moment of epiphany with my Gemini fiance early in our relationship. I could not understand his stance of many years of 'free love' with whoever was willing (even if he wasn't particularly interested - or even repulsed - by anything else about her) and he couldn't fathom my reality of nearly 10 years of complete celibacy while I raised my children and cried at night in loneliness. One day - we drove through McDonalds, and ordered an apple pie to share for dessert, and as I took a bite, I disgustedly exclaimed - "this is gross; do you know how good my homemade apple pie is? I can't eat this crap." He replied - "give it to me, I'll eat it - of course your pie is better, but it's not here, is it?" OMG!!! The bells and whistles went off, and when I stopped laughing, I explained my theory of the apple pie. I would rather have nothing, than lower my standard of requirement. And he knew what he was getting was not good enough, but he figured it was better than nothing. What's true in apple pie, is true for love and relationships, apparently.
                            Who Knew? LOL
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                      Sat, November 3, 2007 - 2:22 PM
                      Re: Joakim's post <<<The Virgo male, in most cases, is NOT CONTROLLED by woman! Women often are so self-obsessed that they think that the Virgo male can be handled like a toy with a remote control. But the Virgo male, in general, just looks at her with cold eyes, he knows her little tricks and mind games like his back pocket AND JUST CANNOT BE BOTHERED! He has his inner worlds, he has his powerful intelligence & he DOES NOT NEED female company the way other sun-sign males can be reduced to weeping blues-singers! What do woman have to offer this wise man? Perhaps not that much.>>>

                      Hi Joakim,

                      Something very important to note about Virgo is the symbol associated with the sing - a woman.

                      I wouldn't say Virgo males "cannot be bothered", that's a ridiculous generalization, i would say that Virgos probably hold a higher standard for themselves and the women they ultimately choose be with. I think Virgos are definately disinterested with simpler forms of mind games involved in courtship and from personal experience i 've noticed it often takes a lot more than cheap seduction tactics to entice and intrigue a virgo male.
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                        Sat, November 3, 2007 - 3:30 PM
                        >>>from personal experience i 've noticed it often takes a lot more than cheap seduction tactics to entice and intrigue a virgo male.<<<

                        Definitely. and that is why it is so hard to seduce a virgo man.
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                          Sat, November 3, 2007 - 4:14 PM
                          yup. I guess we can all agree that cheap seduction tricks are not going to work on a virgo male (and female virgos too, but this thread is really about male virgos), so what does?
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                            Sat, November 3, 2007 - 4:31 PM
                            hm... im sure it differs from virgo to virgo...

                            this virgo likes it when there are no tricks at all... I'm really trying to think of some way that'll catch a Virgos attention....
                            virgo will know if your doing things to try to win him, the only real, good advise i can give you is to not do anything to try to get him. you gotta just be yourself, and hope that your what he wants.. :) Virgo's also have to feel unattainable in some way, so he might be feelin' u even if he doesn't show it at all... virgos are almost impossible!!
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                              Sat, November 3, 2007 - 6:07 PM
                              that kinda seems like it wouldnt make sence because i wrote this

                              " if he's acting like he doesn't know you're trying to seduce him.. he doesn't want you to seduce him. so stop. "

                              but seriously;;

                              virgo's are the hardest to really understand... we're so complicated and confusing.
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                            Sat, November 3, 2007 - 6:15 PM
                            Not scorpio, but Leo influence in mercury has a tendency to sharpen the tongue! Not to mention the seething pot the combination aries moon/virgo sun can be responsible for! But I´m not interested in feather-ruffling; why write things one does not mean, unless it´s irony? And irony should be used with care. Yes, the Virgo male is generally a sophisticated creature who is turned on by INTELLECT, not legs. This is the part many woman cannot understand! Another "heresy" this man is guilty of is THE ABILITY TO READ WOMAN LIKE A MAP! That is is the secret why woman fear this man: HE IS JUST LIKE THEM, MENTALLY! The perfect fusion of male/female, perhaps even natures PERFECTION of woman?
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                              Sat, November 3, 2007 - 6:34 PM
                              >>>
                              Yes, the Virgo male is generally a sophisticated creature who is turned on by INTELLECT, not legs. This is the part many woman cannot understand! Another "heresy" this man is guilty of is THE ABILITY TO READ WOMAN LIKE A MAP! That is is the secret why woman fear this man: HE IS JUST LIKE THEM, MENTALLY!
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                              Yep!
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                                Mon, November 5, 2007 - 9:31 AM
                                Or legs...
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                                  Mon, November 5, 2007 - 9:08 PM
                                  i think you are giving virgo males way to much credit their sun sign is only one part of them and I have have met some virgo males that were dumb as posts and could not read a woman if she came with directions. It is about the total composition of the chart and not the sun sign my 2 cents
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                                    Tue, November 6, 2007 - 6:32 AM
                                    Virgo is the sign of perfection, which is an illusion.
                                    If they were perfect, other signs would not be annoyed by them.
                                    I am in the middle of the month, so I do not wish perfection or control, but am blamed and am guilty of both, because that just makes others want to buy into the program.
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                                      Tue, November 6, 2007 - 10:30 AM
                                      Jealousy is often expressed as anger. Other "stars" of the zodiak seldom gets such bad press as Virgo often has to endure. Has anyone heard about things like tiresome, shallow Geminis or robotic Libras with fake grins? The hatred is spared for another target. Which, maybe, is kind of flattering. But sure, almost no one IS perfect; but some strive to be. That is perhaps what separates the Diva from lesser talents?
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                                    Tue, November 6, 2007 - 6:32 AM
                                    yeah maybe i'm just speaking for myself.... my bad!!
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                                      Tue, November 6, 2007 - 6:38 AM
                                      But that was good...maybe they'll now understand...
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                                        Thu, November 8, 2007 - 8:41 PM
                                        Maybe by starting off with a hello.... I think that Virgo is one of the most uncomfortable signs to be around when they are around others, and in a situation where they only know a handful of people.

                                        Very one-on-one.... from my experience... But I say just a good chit-chat....Lil intelligence .. bright smile...Get them trapped in a thought.... should work!

                                        Sincere complements.... and laughing...how could you go wrong? Point out the trivial facts of life... As I call the common, uncommon sense... connection.

                                        Virgo likes to fix things... usally they have high standards on themselves, but not on everyone else. I sometimes think Virgos like the feeling of being dominated and independent at the same time...

                                        Like the creatures across the street.... Pisces!

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                                          Sat, November 10, 2007 - 9:07 AM
                                          hehe.

                                          <<<Virgos like the feeling of being dominated>>>

                                          I have noticed this to be very true. I think it excites them to be dominated specially if you give them little tasks to do oh how they love it! Not sure why, perhaps it makes them feel useful, puts them at ease in being in their element.
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                                            Mon, November 19, 2007 - 6:01 AM
                                            <<I think it excites them to be dominated specially if you give them little tasks to do oh how they love it!>>

                                            as virgo asc, its my natural tendency to feel useful when somone asks for a favor or help. i give my passion to assist..
                                            but i notice that some people might try to make me a sucker.. thats when i withdraw from a connection and shake that illusional tree they are sitting on.
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                                    Fri, November 9, 2007 - 6:43 AM
                                    "and I have had some virgo males that were dumb as posts and could not read a woman if she came with directions", I couldn't help it,I burst out laughing with this image in my head...but I agree the sun is only one part and I've met a few men born under the so called 'sexy' signs that could be as guilty of the same.Utterly clueless about women.On the other hand mabe being harder to seduce isn't such a bad thing, it's worth waiting for when it does happen,when you work at it.Challenges are better than something that comes too easy.In my opinion.
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                                      Sat, November 10, 2007 - 5:36 PM
                                      Virgos of any gender or intermediary are just not wired like the rest of the world, thankfully.

                                      I'd rather have one of my own kind than a vapid,... oh never mind.

                                      My strongly gemini husb is quite interesting and brilliant. Thank the planets he's not boring or schizo.

                                      Then there are the polyamourous... I won't derail said thread save to say I've met so few Virgo men who are. I have to wonder and then not, why...

                                      MA

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